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Me vs Phomp; OWNED
Topic Started: 9 Nov 2011, 16:03 (1,674 Views)
God qutor
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Its rather impossible to create such a bot free client. I mean come on, look at Counter-Strike, real Tibia, Battlefield and other games. They got PunkBuster, VAC, BOTdetection and whatnot, yet they still fail to detect and prevent the usage of all bots.

People have created Ring0 kernel level "bots" for Counter-Strike, Ring0 is the highest level of privelege one can access in OS. - PB, VAC and so on can most likely never detect them since such high access level is just out of question. Some of the most sophisticated viruses, malware and trojans (w/e you want to call them) have Ring0 rootkits that are almost impossible to detect for any Anti-Virus. Of course malware have other trouble aswell such as being fully run/scantime undetected, let alone bypassing HIPS or Proactive Defense.

Anyways, what we were going to do with the client was creating injection detection, runtime memory encryption and last but not least having it encrypted on the disk. It worked but all the fixes always have downsides. Due to the client being encrypted on the disk and then being unpacked later on when opened, it was instantly detected by AVs (anti-viruses). This is often virus-like behaviour since viruses are crypted in a way that AVs cant detect them and make any more sense than a fucknuts nut does out of them. Of course re-writing the whole packet system would be one option aswell but then a person could re-write or create a "bot" from scratch pretty easily. I highly doubt anyone would, though, since our community isnt filled with computer technicians and programmers unlike tibia_nic (or what ever the server in Worrs example was (wordfilter blocked it)).

There are always workarounds to bypass bot prevention systems and so on. The way we were going to prevent the usage of bots was good but then again the program became "detected". Yes, I could make it "FUD" but then after people would scan it alot, it would became detected again. It would be so much different that anti-viruses could falsely flag it as a virus because of the huge difference when comparing it with the original Tibia 7.6 client.

But yeah, thats about it for now because I dont have more time to write :D

Anyways, Ill still be looking into how to prevent botting. I wont give up but it might take a while to fully create such a system.


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God qutor,Nov 18 2011
07:11 PM
But yeah, thats about it for now because I dont have more time to write :D

You should write this at the top you fucking nut job. This is worse than if J.R.R Tolkien would have written on the last page of Lord of the Rings: "Sorry, guys. I have no time to finish this now" before he died.
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Worr,Nov 18 2011
02:37 PM
So you was wrong. It is 100% impossible.

As I said before I dont know hell of a lot about computers so I never leave out even the 0,0000001% of possibilty.
13:26 Shib: turn off your bot.
16:40 Witchers: KURWA you are botter phomp
15:33 Goku: gz bot for push and mwall...
22:10 Sudden: lol look this bot
13:01 Bulma: big boter u are noob
18:51 Aaron: gz uh bot lol
14:07 Aim Off: u use bot too
22:17 Mefisto: gz u are botter
20:07 Nolifer: you are boter ;d
17:35 Finder: fuck off bot noob
20:22 Razer: yea so your bot can run freely
21:51 Paul: lol botter
22:01 Garnier: you bot
14:32 Esco Pvp Mastah: you use boot
14:37 Chtt: you bott
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Phomp,Nov 18 2011
08:05 PM
Worr,Nov 18 2011
02:37 PM
So you was wrong. It is 100% impossible.

As I said before I dont know hell of a lot about computers so I never leave out even the 0,0000001% of possibilty.

What are you talking about? This 0,0000001% possibility that you mention don't exist.
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LOL

But my story was better than J R R Tolkiens and it was actually true for once!
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OMg i dont fucking use blackd omg and speed bot omgg :angry:
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oky

19:28 Klow: man you botter... bitch
17:03 Inertiatic: so blankd has some anti push stuff too
17:30 Christon Dark: nice pvp
06:00 Yu: what a bot
14:00 leros: you use bot
13:03 Stifler: u are botter, bye
02:17 Herkull: gz bot
15:57 Samurai: 3 sds in one second?
22:52 Asylum: u fucking good
03:52 Beta: if u don't use something for speed im santha claus
06:21 Teh Masterpiece: SPEEDER FU + SD BOTTER.
19:14 War Ture: you have awesome pvp: D
15:00 Doctor: Bye Botter
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Dixes-Dixesss
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Trace,Nov 24 2011
09:04 PM
oky

;)
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Dixes-Dixesss,Dec 6 2011
08:28 PM
Trace,Nov 24 2011
09:04 PM
oky

;)

;)
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Worr,Dec 6 2011
07:33 PM
Dixes-Dixesss,Dec 6 2011
08:28 PM
Trace,Nov 24 2011
09:04 PM
oky

;)

;)

:)
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