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Topic Started: 9 Dec 2013, 17:34 (1,552 Views)
GM Limp
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GM Valo,Dec 11 2013
01:47 PM
Arczi14,Dec 11 2013
02:59 PM
yaa :D Now good , slow players can kill Old Uber fast player's xD

That's what this is all about, balancing and making it fair for everyone.

Hell yeah, that's what we're trying to do. It's never been as equal as it is right now when it comes to speed, fps, pushing and what not.

Also, have you guys tried pushing each other? Serbs and polish players, go have a pushing contest against Swe/Fins, you'll notice a huge difference. Noone is "unpushable" right now, where they could just keep holding their arrows to keep you trapped.
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Phomp
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GM Limp,Dec 11 2013
12:55 AM
Yeah, perhaps you're the best player but the guys on my list are the players I would have hardest time with if they were against me. You're the best one at getting away and escaping when you're alone against many but I don't fear you as much as Joel or Magnus if they were to chase me. They're always fast and good aimers, hard to shake off.

Maybe so, but now the speed is equal right? So if I would somehow fix my lag (buy new pc) you would have trouble getting away from me aswell since we should have the same speed.
You were the hardest to get away from for me. Because in time you knew exactly how I fought and where or when I would run to+ you were alot faster than me.
I can get away from 1 player easely no matter who it is but if it's 3-4 players after me and you're one of those 4 it's kinda hard to get away because you keep running back and forth between my mwalls and lagless pushing and shit. And then the other fuckos who were with you were simply striking my mana off. Then you on your turn could finish me off. :D
13:26 Shib: turn off your bot.
16:40 Witchers: KURWA you are botter phomp
15:33 Goku: gz bot for push and mwall...
22:10 Sudden: lol look this bot
13:01 Bulma: big boter u are noob
18:51 Aaron: gz uh bot lol
14:07 Aim Off: u use bot too
22:17 Mefisto: gz u are botter
20:07 Nolifer: you are boter ;d
17:35 Finder: fuck off bot noob
20:22 Razer: yea so your bot can run freely
21:51 Paul: lol botter
22:01 Garnier: you bot
14:32 Esco Pvp Mastah: you use boot
14:37 Chtt: you bott
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GM Limp,Dec 11 2013
02:55 AM
Yeah, perhaps you're the best player but the guys on my list are the players I would have hardest time with if they were against me. You're the best one at getting away and escaping when you're alone against many but I don't fear you as much as Joel or Magnus if they were to chase me. They're always fast and good aimers, hard to shake off.

Except keyboard king which u used to shake me off everytime u got pwned by my sds :)
Believe me goku and verusham are way better players then you are
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Toni
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05:05 PM
GM Limp,Dec 11 2013
02:55 AM
Yeah, perhaps you're the best player but the guys on my list are the players I would have hardest time with if they were against me. You're the best one at getting away and escaping when you're alone against many but I don't fear you as much as Joel or Magnus if they were to chase me. They're always fast and good aimers, hard to shake off.

Except keyboard king which u used to shake me off everytime u got pwned by my sds :)
Believe me goku and verusham are way better players then you are

Lol, i can see how your post will get deleted in 4minutes :/
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Tonipoika_,Dec 11 2013
02:27 PM
Beta,Dec 11 2013
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GM Limp,Dec 11 2013
02:55 AM
Yeah, perhaps you're the best player but the guys on my list are the players I would have hardest time with if they were against me. You're the best one at getting away and escaping when you're alone against many but I don't fear you as much as Joel or Magnus if they were to chase me. They're always fast and good aimers, hard to shake off.

Except keyboard king which u used to shake me off everytime u got pwned by my sds :)
Believe me goku and verusham are way better players then you are

Lol, i can see how your post will get deleted in 4minutes :/

Schh.... ;)
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Phomp
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Since Sodlig has never denied it, I do believe he used it though. However it is not really relevant anymore. :P
13:26 Shib: turn off your bot.
16:40 Witchers: KURWA you are botter phomp
15:33 Goku: gz bot for push and mwall...
22:10 Sudden: lol look this bot
13:01 Bulma: big boter u are noob
18:51 Aaron: gz uh bot lol
14:07 Aim Off: u use bot too
22:17 Mefisto: gz u are botter
20:07 Nolifer: you are boter ;d
17:35 Finder: fuck off bot noob
20:22 Razer: yea so your bot can run freely
21:51 Paul: lol botter
22:01 Garnier: you bot
14:32 Esco Pvp Mastah: you use boot
14:37 Chtt: you bott
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Phomp,Dec 11 2013
07:09 PM
Since Sodlig has never denied it, I do believe he used it though. However it is not really relevant anymore. :P

I have denied it, but there's no point of keep doing it because you guys make up your own reality.

But yeah, I mean it's no big deal. We never made it illegal, and I rarely used it because shit's too fast. If you were suddenly having less delay in your turns and walking everything gets messed up, you have a harder time mwalling because you jump like 2 steps, super uncontrollable, same with sd's and running. Impossible to use in small areas. It might have looked a lot better in your eyes seeing us that fast, but it's uncontrollable to use properly if you don't have much lags. I used it a lot less than you might think, probably for a couple of battles but there was never a good enough gain for me to use and it only upset people because they weren't able to chase me. So it definitely helped in larger areas, but to keep it running all the time was a hassle. However, we (magnus and I) discussed the software with Joel and came to the realization that it has too much of a gain and if we (GMs) kept using it, everyone else would want to use it and it would mainly only benefit people with low latency (scandinavians) and make the gap bigger towards serbs and polish players and we've always tried to keep it balanced and turn that gap smaller and smaller by every update and reset we do. So therefore we advised everyone who used it, NOT to continue using it. However, it's a registry fix like any other tweak we do so we can't really punish people from using it because of a moral dilemma. So we both stopped using it at that point but then guys like Toni kept complaining for months later about us still using it. This all was just blown out of proportion.

EITHERWAY, it's history and not relevant anymore I just wanted to explain it once for all. Instead of advising people to not use it we now simply made a fix for it in the new client so no one can use it and the game has at this point never been as equal and good as it's ever been.
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Phomp
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Alright. No I'm not saying that you did, but I figured you did because I haven't seen you deny it once.
And yeah I always figured the same thing you just said. If you already are as fast and lagless as you are it doesn't seem helpfull and it would work exactly like you said.
Instead of making one step and mwall something, you accidently make 2 steps and mwall the wrong spot. So all you manage to do is make yourself vulnerable.
However it could be helpfull for you in gigantic areas such as Tarid, Aberon, and Adicama.
But yeah, I believe you tell the truth. And even if you didn't, I couldn't give a shit anyway.
13:26 Shib: turn off your bot.
16:40 Witchers: KURWA you are botter phomp
15:33 Goku: gz bot for push and mwall...
22:10 Sudden: lol look this bot
13:01 Bulma: big boter u are noob
18:51 Aaron: gz uh bot lol
14:07 Aim Off: u use bot too
22:17 Mefisto: gz u are botter
20:07 Nolifer: you are boter ;d
17:35 Finder: fuck off bot noob
20:22 Razer: yea so your bot can run freely
21:51 Paul: lol botter
22:01 Garnier: you bot
14:32 Esco Pvp Mastah: you use boot
14:37 Chtt: you bott
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whoisleo
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yo, chaps like ikcel(?) and piromann should be definitely on that list-- don't remember their 4um names, but they were pretty mad with sds and also superduper speed
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whoisleo,Dec 13 2013
06:37 AM
yo, chaps like ikcel(?) and piromann should be definitely on that list-- don't remember their 4um names, but they were pretty mad with sds and also superduper speed

Never heard of them, so they must not have been very good/known/active.
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